Predgovor
Celoga zivota me odusevljava ideja predgovora, mada ih nikada nisam citao, to je jedini razlog imena prvog posta.
Oooo kad samo pomislim koju bih Nirvanu uspeo da dozivim u nerpospavanim nocima da nije bilo FILMA. Jer, muzika jeste muzika, pojam bez koga vecina ljudi ne moze da zivi, ali ona je pozadina. Sluh je kod ljudi relativno zakrzljalo culo, dok je vid skoro...pa SKORO pa savrsen. Na njega IPAK najvise OBRACAMO PAZNJU???
I, evo, dok pisem ovo u pozadini se cuje Nick Cave...
Pa, da li je film umetnost?
Kako bi na to odgovorio recimo jedan larpurlartista?
Cinjenica je da jedan veliki Hitchcock nije voleo da njegove filmoive smatraju umetnoscu.
Da li Bunuela treba smatrati umetnikom?
Ne osudjujuci Bunuela (cije filmove licno volim), moram da primetim, da nastankom "moderne umetnosti", svako moze da bude umetnik. Da odsanja par slika, baci ih na traku, platno, doda jos par nepovezanih pojmova, i svi se tome KAO dive. Otprilike sledeca scena: lik i likinja koji stoje u nekoj hipotetickoj galeriji diveci se slici koja sadrzi nista drugo do crnog kvadrata na beloj podlozi...hmmm...Ljudi u sustini cene ono sto ne razumeju.
Da li su Fellini-jevi filmovi umetnost?
Ako mene pitate odgovor je da, ali da li je umetnost i ono sto samo "umetnik" moze da shvati?
A opet, s druge strane, zar nam takva umetnost ne otvara gotovo neogranicene mogucnosti za licno tumacenje takvog umetnickog dela?
Ali, da li nase tumacenje umetnickog dela umanjuju samu vrednost tog dela?
Da li umetnost uopste treba tumaciti? Zar odgovorom ne, ne umanjujete vrednost samog pojma umetnosti, jer onda sve moze da bude umetnost. Ali najveca istina je, i ono sto daje kontradiktornost celom ovom blogu je da je umetnost kao takva subjektivna, kao uostalom i sve oko nas. Odnosno subjektivno je nase vidjenje toga, dok pravu istinu vidi samo sam umetnik. Ili vi, ako ste na LSD-ju. Mozda.
A mozda istina i ne postoji.
Mozda objektivnost ne postoji. Vec je to nametnuta tudja subjektivnost.
Mislim da je ovo solidan predgovor za ono sto sledi. Izvinjavam se zbog mogucih nelogicnosti u ovom i narednim tekstovima, ali ipak je ovo Gonzo. Pure Gonzo, bez recenzija i samo-cenzure.
P.S. Da li neko savrsen moze da stvori nesavrseno delo, i da li neko nesavrsen moze da stvori savrseno delo?
**********by Boba & Irina**********
Song of Childhood
By Peter Handke
When the child was a child
It walked with its arms swinging,
wanted the brook to be a river,
the river to be a torrent,
and this puddle to be the sea.
When the child was a child,
it didn’t know that it was a child,
everything was soulful,
and all souls were one.
When the child was a child,
it had no opinion about anything,
had no habits,
it often sat cross-legged,
took off running,
had a cowlick in its hair,
and made no faces when photographed.
When the child was a child,
It was the time for these questions:
Why am I me, and why not you?
Why am I here, and why not there?
When did time begin, and where does space end?
Is life under the sun not just a dream?
Is what I see and hear and smell
not just an illusion of a world before the world?
Given the facts of evil and people.
does evil really exist?
How can it be that I, who I am,
didn’t exist before I came to be,
and that, someday, I, who I am,
will no longer be who I am?
When the child was a child,
It choked on spinach, on peas, on rice pudding,
and on steamed cauliflower,
and eats all of those now, and not just because it has to.
When the child was a child,
it awoke once in a strange bed,
and now does so again and again.
Many people, then, seemed beautiful,
and now only a few do, by sheer luck.
It had visualized a clear image of Paradise,
and now can at most guess,
could not conceive of nothingness,
and shudders today at the thought.
When the child was a child,
It played with enthusiasm,
and, now, has just as much excitement as then,
but only when it concerns its work.
When the child was a child,
It was enough for it to eat an apple, … bread,
And so it is even now.
When the child was a child,
Berries filled its hand as only berries do,
and do even now,
Fresh walnuts made its tongue raw,
and do even now,
it had, on every mountaintop,
the longing for a higher mountain yet,
and in every city,
the longing for an even greater city,
and that is still so,
It reached for cherries in topmost branches of trees
with an elation it still has today,
has a shyness in front of strangers,
and has that even now.
It awaited the first snow,
And waits that way even now.
When the child was a child,
It threw a stick like a lance against a tree,
And it quivers there still today.
Oooo kad samo pomislim koju bih Nirvanu uspeo da dozivim u nerpospavanim nocima da nije bilo FILMA. Jer, muzika jeste muzika, pojam bez koga vecina ljudi ne moze da zivi, ali ona je pozadina. Sluh je kod ljudi relativno zakrzljalo culo, dok je vid skoro...pa SKORO pa savrsen. Na njega IPAK najvise OBRACAMO PAZNJU???
I, evo, dok pisem ovo u pozadini se cuje Nick Cave...
Pa, da li je film umetnost?
Kako bi na to odgovorio recimo jedan larpurlartista?
Cinjenica je da jedan veliki Hitchcock nije voleo da njegove filmoive smatraju umetnoscu.
Da li Bunuela treba smatrati umetnikom?
Ne osudjujuci Bunuela (cije filmove licno volim), moram da primetim, da nastankom "moderne umetnosti", svako moze da bude umetnik. Da odsanja par slika, baci ih na traku, platno, doda jos par nepovezanih pojmova, i svi se tome KAO dive. Otprilike sledeca scena: lik i likinja koji stoje u nekoj hipotetickoj galeriji diveci se slici koja sadrzi nista drugo do crnog kvadrata na beloj podlozi...hmmm...Ljudi u sustini cene ono sto ne razumeju.
Da li su Fellini-jevi filmovi umetnost?
Ako mene pitate odgovor je da, ali da li je umetnost i ono sto samo "umetnik" moze da shvati?
A opet, s druge strane, zar nam takva umetnost ne otvara gotovo neogranicene mogucnosti za licno tumacenje takvog umetnickog dela?
Ali, da li nase tumacenje umetnickog dela umanjuju samu vrednost tog dela?
Da li umetnost uopste treba tumaciti? Zar odgovorom ne, ne umanjujete vrednost samog pojma umetnosti, jer onda sve moze da bude umetnost. Ali najveca istina je, i ono sto daje kontradiktornost celom ovom blogu je da je umetnost kao takva subjektivna, kao uostalom i sve oko nas. Odnosno subjektivno je nase vidjenje toga, dok pravu istinu vidi samo sam umetnik. Ili vi, ako ste na LSD-ju. Mozda.
A mozda istina i ne postoji.
Mozda objektivnost ne postoji. Vec je to nametnuta tudja subjektivnost.
Mislim da je ovo solidan predgovor za ono sto sledi. Izvinjavam se zbog mogucih nelogicnosti u ovom i narednim tekstovima, ali ipak je ovo Gonzo. Pure Gonzo, bez recenzija i samo-cenzure.
P.S. Da li neko savrsen moze da stvori nesavrseno delo, i da li neko nesavrsen moze da stvori savrseno delo?
**********by Boba & Irina**********
Song of Childhood
By Peter Handke
When the child was a child
It walked with its arms swinging,
wanted the brook to be a river,
the river to be a torrent,
and this puddle to be the sea.
When the child was a child,
it didn’t know that it was a child,
everything was soulful,
and all souls were one.
When the child was a child,
it had no opinion about anything,
had no habits,
it often sat cross-legged,
took off running,
had a cowlick in its hair,
and made no faces when photographed.
When the child was a child,
It was the time for these questions:
Why am I me, and why not you?
Why am I here, and why not there?
When did time begin, and where does space end?
Is life under the sun not just a dream?
Is what I see and hear and smell
not just an illusion of a world before the world?
Given the facts of evil and people.
does evil really exist?
How can it be that I, who I am,
didn’t exist before I came to be,
and that, someday, I, who I am,
will no longer be who I am?
When the child was a child,
It choked on spinach, on peas, on rice pudding,
and on steamed cauliflower,
and eats all of those now, and not just because it has to.
When the child was a child,
it awoke once in a strange bed,
and now does so again and again.
Many people, then, seemed beautiful,
and now only a few do, by sheer luck.
It had visualized a clear image of Paradise,
and now can at most guess,
could not conceive of nothingness,
and shudders today at the thought.
When the child was a child,
It played with enthusiasm,
and, now, has just as much excitement as then,
but only when it concerns its work.
When the child was a child,
It was enough for it to eat an apple, … bread,
And so it is even now.
When the child was a child,
Berries filled its hand as only berries do,
and do even now,
Fresh walnuts made its tongue raw,
and do even now,
it had, on every mountaintop,
the longing for a higher mountain yet,
and in every city,
the longing for an even greater city,
and that is still so,
It reached for cherries in topmost branches of trees
with an elation it still has today,
has a shyness in front of strangers,
and has that even now.
It awaited the first snow,
And waits that way even now.
When the child was a child,
It threw a stick like a lance against a tree,
And it quivers there still today.
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Uh, ozbiljan kraci esej o filmu. Ima dosta kultnih, kvalitetnih filmova koje ja nisam imao strpljenja da odgledam cele. Ima filmova koje mogu samo pijan da gledam i uzivam. Ima dosta subjektivnosti, osobenosti, licnog shvatanja, ... No, tema je za dugu raspravu ...
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Autor Marina P. — 18 Jan 2008, 04:46
haha, drago mi je da jos neko slusa Nick Cave-a, pa jos i cita ovo..
bice prilike da pricamo ovde i o njegovoj muzici, obozavam ga..
ok, slozicu se sa ovim da bi izbegli dublju raspravu o nekim sasvim apstraktnim stvarima..
uskoro nesto o Bunuelu ili Wendersu, do tada pozdrav..
Autor boba — 14 Jul 2007, 16:11
Uhh.Citam nocas ovo i slusam Nick Cave-a. A mala crna slova kazu mi " I, evo, dok pisem ovo u pozadini se cuje Nick Cave..."
Bas bas je bila mala verovatnoca za takvo nesto, pravo cudo...
Pa i umetnost se zasniva na istoj ljudskoj sposobnosti da pomocu mikro delica mozemo da naslutimo ceo univerzum.
Autor becha — 14 Jul 2007, 01:50
Dobro, mislim da cemo otici predaleko ako krenemo da raspravljamo u tom smeru, ja zelim ovo da zadrzim u oblasti umetnosti, a posebno filma.
btw, prica o nekom kosmickom jedinstvu i objektivnosti je sama po sebi subjektivna
Autor boba — 13 Jul 2007, 18:18
Dobrodosao na blog.co.yu... Sto se tice teme.. da to je sve vrlo subjektivno.. ali to je ono sto cini samu sustinu umetnosti. I bas je onako ironicno apsurdno. Gomile subjektivnosti koje formira ili inspirise nas put ka objektivnosti, pri tome misleci na neku vecu istinu ili kosmicko jedinstvo!!. POZDRAV!!!
Autor dmc — 13 Jul 2007, 07:25